AVC: It all comes back to Game Of Thrones.
DR: It's not a fringe HBO show, is it? It's crazy—that, and The Walking Dead. That was like an indie comic. That was Image. See? Fuck Marvel and DC and these guys. I have an email exchange—the guy from Image is open to a pitch from me as soon as I'm ready to do one, but I've got [Present Shock] and I'm writing a graphic novel now for Dark Horse. I had pitched it to Karen Berger [at Vertigo], and she already kind of knew the writing on the wall, and was like, "Don't, don't do it here." So I'm doing this graphic novel with Dean Haspiel, and it's basically, "What if Aleister Crowley had been enlisted in the occult war against Adolf Hitler?" Which he was. And then I kind of go, "How might that have played out?" Then it leads to the American advertising industry. So the idea is that Crowley kind of won, but this is what we got. We got another form of fascism, or another sigil.
Image by Seth Kushner.