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A Very Festive Fanboy Rampage Over Duck Dynasty

Published Fri, 20 Dec 2013 10:00:46 -0600

Last updated Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:44:24 -0600

UPDATE: Cully Hamner called media bias on this little exchange being left out. We will rectify that immediately, Cully!

Gay duck PORN is totally not what we're talking about, Greg. RT @GregCapullo I'd just like to interject that I'm very fond of gay ducks

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 19, 2013

Duck Dynasty airs in the UK on the History Channel. Which hardly anyone watches. In fact I have a hard time believing the show exists. But since I get my American news from The Daily Show, I believe there has been a little kerfuffle of late. Over a little Duck Dynasty Homophobia.

@ronmarz It is if people are now afraid to speak their mind for fear of being fired.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz So it's OK to get fired over it? I don't agree with you, leads to a police state.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz But it is not free speech, if you can't actually express ideas freely.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz They didn't, he expressed his views in a magazine, not on the air.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz if they have a contract and he has no morality clause, yes. Is there is a morality clause no.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@Demonpuppy It's simply not censorship. He can say whatever he wants, and he can suffer any consequences that come with it.

— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz If there are consequences then yes it is. It is no longer a free exchange of ideas.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

And then we had the voice of reason come in Cully Hamner, saying something very true that some have difficulty grasping.

@ronmarz @Demonpuppy It *is* censorship. It's just not what's protected under the First Amendment. The governemtn has not abridged his…

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @Demonpuppy …Right to express his opinion. He represents a company and expressed views that make his employer look bad.

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 19, 2013

And with Cully Hamner entering the conversation, we has a very special back and forth with Brett Booth.

@ronmarz He's NOT expressing them on A&E. This was for a magazine.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @Demonpuppy They're well within their rights to no longer employ him.

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 19, 2013

@CullyHamner @ronmarz @Ridd1e That would assume all contracts are the same…

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@Gromit801 @ronmarz And it shouldn't be legal. You should not be forced to follow work rules when not at work.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@Demonpuppy @CullyHamner You can disagree, but that's simply not how the law works.

— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) December 19, 2013

@Demonpuppy @CullyHamner He doesn't work for a large portion of America, he works for A&E. So they decide who they employ.

— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) December 19, 2013

@Demonpuppy @ronmarz They generally do a BG check & make you stipulate you haven't done anything & *won't* do anything to embarrass them.

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 19, 2013

@Demonpuppy @ronmarz Here's the thing: If you're a school principal and the local news shows you at a Klan rally, you will get fired.

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 19, 2013

@CullyHamner @ronmarz it really isn't. He should not be fired for an opinion unless he's signed a morality clause.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @CullyHamner His were not. As he already said it. But others will now be for fear of being fired, that is my point.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @CullyHamner That is censorship.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @CullyHamner no, what the law should be. It's unjust.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @CullyHamner I agree with you. And I hate what he said. But I will defend his right to say it.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @CullyHamner I doubt this will hurt their ratings as well, I mean who's actually watching this show? Not liberals.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @CullyHamner that sort of steps on his right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness for me.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @CullyHamner So the whole 'hurting' argument is moot.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @CullyHamner no! but again! he didn't say it on TV. That is his job, or one of them..

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@ronmarz @CullyHamner I agree with that. I do think he has grounds for wrong full termination.. If they terminate him.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@Demonpuppy @ronmarz Trust me, he has language in his contract that gives them leverage in case he says something that embarrasses A&E.

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 19, 2013

@Demonpuppy @ronmarz There isn't a timeclock that says when they is "outside of work" They are employing him as a personality.

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 19, 2013

@CullyHamner @ronmarz You are probably right, but I don't know for sure.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@CullyHamner @ronmarz So if I go I Kevin Smiths show and we start to discuss religion I'm working for DC?

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@Demonpuppy @ronmarz Are you under contract to DC?

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 19, 2013

@Demonpuppy Doesn't make it wrong, either.

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 19, 2013

@CullyHamner It's morally wrong to me.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 19, 2013

@CullyHamner yes! and I weep for the country if our rights have been eroded so bad. We might not ever know the legality of the situation.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

@CullyHamner Actually it isn't. It all depends on the contract which we don't have specifics for. They would have to prove his comments

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

@CullyHamner actually hurt the company.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

@CullyHamner Yeah, but has that happen? As far as I know it's just the LGBT that's up in arms.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

Oooh….

@Demonpuppy It's in a GQ interview the guy did representing that show, and the network. Has he denied it?

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 20, 2013

@Demonpuppy We don't know if WHAT actually happened?

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 20, 2013

@CullyHamner If there is a morality clause in his contract. I'm not just going to take your word on it. You don't know.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

@CullyHamner SO? If I do an interview for Comic Vine and I talk about dinosaurs and DC and religion am I reping DC?

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

You know, there's the whole Orson Scott Card thing at play here….

@Demonpuppy Either way, it's not contingent upon a clause. A company can fire you for representing them in a bad light. #fact

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 20, 2013

@Demonpuppy If you do an interview for a DC project and slam LGBT's or a particular religion, yeah!

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 20, 2013

@CullyHamner no! I'm reping myself. Like when I'm on twitter I'm not always reping DC. Sometimes it's all about me.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

@Demonpuppy You seem to have a very B&W view of the world, Brett.

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 20, 2013

@CullyHamner no!I'm don't. Just when it comes to free speech.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

@CullyHamner maybe, if it was for an interview DC set up. I wouldn't say those things of course because I don't agree with them.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

@CullyHamner is it? They didn't pop him for his earlier racists comments. He does have rights as well.

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

@CullyHamner Then why are you keeping up with it?

— Brett Booth (@Demonpuppy) December 20, 2013

@Demonpuppy Glutton for punishment. You answer me, I answer you. Vicious circle.

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 20, 2013

@Demonpuppy We aren't. I love you anyway. :)

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 20, 2013

@Demonpuppy By the way… YOU'RE WRONG! #runsaway #slamsdoor :P

— Cully Hamner (@CullyHamner) December 20, 2013

All's well that ends well! Merry Christmas everybody!

Fanboy Rampage was a blog by Graeme McMillan dedicated to the funniest, most ludicrous and most inappropriate comic book back-and-forths online. McMillan has moved on now, becoming a proper journalist for the likes of Time and Hollywood Reporter, but he gave permission to Bleeding Cool to revive his great creation. Feel free to contribute your own spots of online excess.

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