Thanks to The Mary Sue for the transcript of the Scriptnotes live audience podcast focussing on suprrheroes with Andrea Berloff, Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely and Man Of Steel screenwriter David S. Goyer
And it was one statement by Goyer, intended to amuse, that has got folk up in arms.
Goyer: I have a theory about She-Hulk. Which was created by a man, right? And at the time in particular I think 95% of comic book readers were men and certainly almost all of the comic book writers were men. So the Hulk was this classic male power fantasy. It's like, most of the people reading comic books were these people like me who were just these little kids getting the shit kicked out of them every day… And so then they created She-Hulk, right? Who was still smart… I think She-Hulk is the chick that you could fuck if you were Hulk, you know what I'm saying? … She-Hulk was the extension of the male power fantasy. So it's like if I'm going to be this geek who becomes the Hulk then let's create a giant green porn star that only the Hulk could fuck.
Giving us reactions such as,
David Goyer's comments on She-Hulk and Martian Manhunter? Disgusting. HOW are we still letting this guy write superhero movies?
— The Amazing Glamazon (@_DownToEarth) May 21, 2014
David Goyer is aware that She-Hulk is the Hulk's COUSIN right? Yeah, that's the real male power fantasy: Hulkcest.
— Joshua J. Bell (@JoshuaAnarchist) May 21, 2014
If Goyer thinks She-Hulk was created so Hulk has someone to screw, how does he feel about Wonder Woman? This is WB's go-to DC guy. :(
— Justin Korthof (@SixOkay) May 21, 2014
Though some find he has a point…
With regards to She-Hulk looking more like a dude's ideal 'powerful' woman than a real female power fantasy: Goyer's sort of not wrong.
— David Uzumeri (@DavidUzumeri) May 21, 2014
She-Hulk was indeed created by men, Stan Lee and John Buscema, not as a sexual objective for the Hulk, but as his cousin.
No, Frank Cho, not like that, you're not exactly helping.
Like Spider-Woman, She-Hulk was created as a way to preserve the trademark. Basically to stop the folk behind the Hulk TV show creating a female spin-off just as had been done with the Bionic Woman, that they would own rights to.
Less of an offensive power fantasy, David, and more pure cold cash.
But lots of characters are created for all sorts of spurious reasons, the trick is what you do with them then. John Byrne, Dan Slott and Charles Soule are all folk who, in the last twenty years or so, have done some wonderful things with the character. No reason why a screenwriter couldn't either.