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[SPOILERS] Kevin Feige Talks That Retcon In Thor: Ragnarok

Published Mon, 06 Nov 2017 19:56:06 -0600

There have been a few plot holes in the Marvel Cinematic Universe that have needed to be cleared up. One of them is going to affect a big movie going forward, and /Film asked Kevin Feige about the scene in question that takes place in Thor: Ragnarok. However, it is a bit of a spoiler, so it's below the image. Come back after you've seen the movie.

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After Hela (Cate Blanchett) invades Asgard we see her go into Odin's Vault. While there she looks at the Gauntlet and knocks it to the ground declaring it to be "fake". Fans have been wondering about this since Thanos took the gauntlet and declared in an after-credits scene that he was going "do this himself". Fans were wondering how Thanos got the Gauntlet from Odin's vault or if that was a different one than we saw in the original Thor. Feige talked about how the shot of the original gauntlet was one from the first movie.

Going all the way back to Phase One, where Infinity War was a barely a glint in our eye, we were working on Avengers and trying to get just put that all together for the conclusion of Phase One. And it's in one shot. It's in one shot in the background.

He went on to explain how it was on display at Comic-Con which just made the inconsistencies even worse.

And also, it was on display, I think at Comic-Con. In the Marvel booth. And pretty quickly after that, within a couple years, we were like, well that's clearly not the Gauntlet. The Gauntlet can't be in there. And we had an internal Marvel theory that it was fake. That Odin who you've seen in the other films and who's a… I guess a good father. He's kind of an okay father. Kind of fosters the rivalry.

As we learn in this movie, he vanished his firstborn daughter because he sort of got what he needed, he got to the top of the Nine Realms and it was like oh, this is much too violent. And Hela says, glad to have it, ashamed of how we got it. And we see that mural in the movie of [how] it was not a pleasant history of how Asgard got all that gold. So Odin has a history of doing what he wants to do to maintain power. And going back, I mean, now it's probably five years ago we started again just in our internal creative group saying, "Well, it's fake." Because if the Asgardians knew that there was something that had that kind of power, that could theoretically wipe out Asgard and whatever else with a, in the comics, a literal snap of the fingers. They might question Odin's ability to protect them.

So Odin put a fake and he goes, it's fine, I got it. Look, it's fine, it's in our vault, don't worry about it. And it's not until Hela goes down there. It was fun being back in that vault, by the way, for the first time since Thor 1. It was just the opportunity to call it a fake. So for people like yourself, and like all of us at Marvel Studios who were paying attention, that answers that question. And for people who have no idea that an out-of-focus Infinity Gauntlet appeared in the back of Thor 1, it just showcases her knowledge and her sort of disgust with the way Odin had handled things on her way to the true power that is below the surface.

So there we go. It was a fake that was put there so Odin could say Thanos didn't have it and everything was under control. It's an interesting little retcon and clears things up for Avengers: Infinity War in May.

Summary: Imprisoned, the mighty Thor finds himself in a lethal gladiatorial contest against the Hulk, his former ally. Thor must fight for survival and race against time to prevent the all-powerful Hela from destroying his home and the Asgardian civilization.

Thor: Ragnarok, directed by Taika Waititi, stars Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, Cate Blanchett, Jeff Goldblum, Idris Elba, and Mark Ruffalo. Check it out in theaters now.

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