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"Better Call Saul" Season 5: Dean Norris, Steven Quezada Reprising "Breaking Bad" Roles; Robert Forster Scene Included

Fans of Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould's Breaking Bad prequel/sequel/parallel series Better Call Saul have been waiting patiently to find out when Bob Odenkirk's Saul Goodman/Jimmy McGill would be hanging out his shingle for a fifth season – and now they know to save Monday, February 23, and Monday, February 24, for the show's two-night premiere return.

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Not that we're not both excited and sad over Better Call Saul being renewed for a 13-episode sixth and final season, but we're keeping our eyeballs focused on the here-and now of season 5 – especially with some confirmed Breaking Bad faces set to start popping up.

At this year's Television Critics Association (TCA) winter press event, it was confirmed that Dean Norris and Steven Quezada would be reprising their roles as DEA agents Hank Schrader and Steven Gomez. In addition, the late Robert Forster's Ed Galbraith aka The Extractor will also be making an appearance via footage shot during the the production of El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie.

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Previously, viewers received… a fashion lesson from Saul/Jimmy? Look, we'll keep it real: we would love to have him as our attorney if we ever "break bad" but we're not going to him for fashion advice.

Except when it comes to his ties and how he ties them – we never thought comparing tying a tie to "sweet tea" would make the entire process feel "cool" but just watch… you'll see what we're talking about:

In the following behind-the-scenes video, Odenkirk and the rest of the cast and crew discuss what it was like returning as well as how the series is beginning to merge more and more with the main Breaking Bad narrative:

So how does a proper Better Call Saul fan get themselves ready for the series' return? By taking part in AMC's upcoming five-week ultimate Breaking Bad marathon – leading to the world television premiere of sequel film El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie on Sunday, February 16 and helping usher in the return of Saul/Jimmy the following week. The marathon features all of the episodes from all five critically- acclaimed original seasons, kicking off on Sunday, January 19, and airing over five consecutive Sundays.

"The world of Breaking Bad remains iconic and AMC is the destination for all of its brilliant stories – from the place where it all began, Breaking Bad, to the gripping tale of Jesse Pinkman's continued journey in the feature film El Camino and the next chapter of 'criminal' attorney Jimmy McGill's transformation in Better Call Saul's upcoming fifth season. We are beyond proud to be the home for Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould's incredible vision and are endlessly in awe of the insanely talented actors that bring the vision to life."

– Sarah Barnett, President, AMC Networks' Entertainment Group and AMC Studios

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Here's a look at how the calendar plays out for AMC's ultimate Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul marathon:

Sunday, January 19

Breaking Bad season one (4 p.m. ET/3 p.m. CT)

Sunday, January 26

Breaking Bad season two (8 p.m. ET/7 p.m. CT)

Sunday, February 2

Breaking Bad season three (8 p.m. ET/7 p.m. CT)

Sunday, February 9

Breaking Bad season four (8 p.m. ET/7 p.m. CT)

Sunday, February 16

Breaking Bad season five (1:30 a.m. ET/12:30 a.m. CT)

El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie (world television premiere – 8 p.m. ET/7 p.m. CT)

Sunday, February 23

Better Call Saul season five (10 p.m. ET/9 p.m. CT)

Monday, February 24

Better Call Saul season five premiere (encore – 7:45 p.m. ET/6:45 p.m. CT)

Better Call Saul season five, episode two (9 p.m. ET/8 p.m. CT)

Earlier this week, viewers got another look at just how much things have changed since we last saw "McGoodman" – and let's just say that we're finding the carnival environment pretty fitting (followed by new key art from AMC):

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"Better Call Saul" Season 5: Dean Norris, Steven Quezada Reprising "Breaking Bad" Roles; Robert Forster Scene Included "Better Call Saul" Season 5: Dean Norris, Steven Quezada Reprising "Breaking Bad" Roles; Robert Forster Scene Included

With the new year upon us, the fine folks at Better Call Saul gave viewers a glimpse at what's to come – and if the adage "the clothes make the man" is true, than it's pretty clear Jimmy's just about finished his one-way journey to "Saul Goodman". But as the series begins heading into some very familiar territory, it's not just Jimmy/Saul who's finding himself facing some life-changing decisions.

Except there are no heroes here to "save the day"… they're on their own:

In the following premiere announcement video "Speedy Justice", it's pretty clear: Jimmy's taking a back seat to "Saul Goodman" – and as we know, once Jimmy flips that switch for real?

There's no going back… and as the teaser "Joyide" show us, "no going back" might require a little murder on the mind:

Odenkirk recently spoke with Deadline Hollywood's Matt Grobar to offer a few more insights into the previous season as well as why he sees the upcoming season as "the best season we've ever done."

If you're a fan of the Breaking Bad universe, the interview is an excellent use of your time (and you can find it here) – but our biggest takeaway/highlight definitely fell in the "Still to Come" category:

● Odenkirk isn't exactly shy when asked what he can say about the new season. Let's just say he's pretty pleased…

"It's the best season we've ever done, it's going to blow your mind, and I'm not kidding about either of those things. It's f*cking awesome. I can't wait for people to see it. It's just shattering in every direction, and I love it."

"Better Call Saul" Season 5: Dean Norris, Steven Quezada Reprising "Breaking Bad" Roles; Robert Forster Scene Included
Jonathan Banks as Mike Ehrmantraut – Better Call Saul _ Season 5 – Photo Credit: Greg Lewis/AMC/Sony Pictures Television

● Though he's promised Kim (Rhea Seehorn) that he would go the straight-n-narrow – considering most of us have seen Breaking Bad, we know how well that's going to go this season. What is it about Jimmy that keeps sending him down the path to "Saul"?

"Listen, I think he's impatient. He's a restless soul. A lot of people are, and it's almost considered a plus, or a positive, in our modern society. "You should be wanting more, and if you're not wanting more, I'm sure you feel like there's something wrong with you." But he does have a restlessness about him that he cannot calm down—and that, I think, causes a lot of his behavior, and choices that cause all kinds of trouble for him."

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Bob Odenkirk as Jimmy McGill, Lavell Crawford as Huell Babineux – Better Call Saul _ Season 5 – Photo Credit: Warrick Page/AMC/Sony Pictures Television

Recently, Gould offered more insights into what viewers can expect when the series returns. Sitting down with Variety to discuss his approach to risky storytelling and season/series finales, Gould made two particularly interesting reveals:

● When asked about narrative ideas that "scare him" and how to make sure storylines stay true to the characters, Gould pointed out that it's the characters themselves that will sometimes dictate where a story goes – then revealing that an episode during the upcoming fifth season that will best represent what they've always wanted the show to be:

"And the greatest thing is when the characters surprise you — when you go, "Wait a minute!" This season, Jimmy's lost his brother, he's pulled into himself and is almost affect-less, but then what gets him going is a job interview, is conflict, and you start to dig in, but we didn't know that. We have ideas about where things are going but 99% of the time we're wrong.

Right now we're towards the end of shooting Season 5, and we have an episode which is pretty much what I pictured the show to be before we started, and it took us more than 40 some-odd episodes to get there. I think the great thing is you have to have faith in the characters. I personally save the fear for after the thing is done, so that's why the screening is scary to me, but actually, when we're writing and we're on the set, that feels right and that feels good."

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Giancarlo Esposito as Gustavo 'Gus' Fring – Better Call Saul _ Season 5 – Photo Credit: Warrick Page/AMC/Sony Pictures Television

● When asked how he balances bringing Better Call Saul to a satisfying ending that stays true to the series while also bridging nicely into Breaking Bad, Gould admitted that it can be a bit of balancing act – but as work progressed on the fifth season, "the fog cleared a little bit" on how the series will end:

"It's like the devil's Rubik's cube because we not only have 40-something episodes of this show, but we also have 62 episodes of "Breaking Bad," all of which have to make sense together. We have a list of "got to pay off stuff," and the trick is we have to honor who these people are, but at the same time, we want the whole thing to be a coherent, internally consistent story, and that is really, really tough. Interestingly, we sort of had the same problem on "Breaking Bad," and I remember Vince saying over and over again, "What if we hadn't put that machine gun in the trunk?" Eventually we figured out why there was a machine gun in the trunk. This whole show is one giant machine gun in the trunk!

There are so many things we have to honor and pay off before the end, and at this point we are closer to the end than the beginning, so hopefully we'll figure it out; we do have a lot of really smart people. I will say that the ending was really unclear to me but then as we were working on Season 5, it's possible the fog cleared a little bit, but it's possible it may end up not being true."

Gould also offered EW some initial insights on the upcoming season during a December 2018 interview:

● Now that Jimmy's enjoying wearing the Saul mask longer and longer (or Saul's hating wearing the Jimmy mask any longer than he has to), what's the next stage in Saul's "evolution"?

"It seems like Jimmy's first move is to try to leverage all the contacts he has in the world of selling drop phones. But don't forget, he also knows the vet [Caldera, played by Joe DeRosa], and the vet is sort of Craig's List for the underworld in Albuquerque. So he can get quite far. The question is: how does he establish a reputation as not just a criminal lawyer but a criminal lawyer? And what does that mean to him at this point? Because situations may require him to do things and turn a blind eye to things that Jimmy McGill would not be able to stomach."

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Rhea Seehorn as Kim Wexler – Better Call Saul _ Season 5 – Photo Credit: Warrick Page/AMC/Sony Pictures Television

● While it's easy to get lost in the Better Call Saul "Jimmy/Saul" dynamic, let's not forget about the third "character" in play here: post-Breaking Bad Jimmy alter-ego/Cinnabon manager Gene Takovic. Sounds like "Gene" has a fan in Gould…

"I am very, very interested in Gene Takovic. In some ways, Gene is very enigmatic. In some ways, he's the opposite of Saul Goodman because he speaks so very little, he's so afraid. But I'm fascinated by that situation and by the question of: is there still any chance of redemption or ray of light in this guy's life after all the terrible things that he's done, now that he's run away and hidden himself in Omaha?"

● With rumors of Walter White (Bryan Cranston) and Jesse Pinkman (Aaron Paul) appearing on the series before it ends its run, Gould would be interested in revisiting the Breaking Bad era again as they did during season 4 – as long as it works for the story:

"The question for us is always: are we telling the story of Jimmy McGill and Mike Ehrmantraut and Kim Wexler? And if showing scenes during the course of Breaking Bad add to that story or are important to that story or turn that story, then I think we should do them. But I don't want to dip in to Breaking Bad just because we can."

● Finally, Gould shared a question that fans should be asking themselves during the off-season – a question that Better Call Saul season 5 hopes to answer: "We know who Saul Goodman is, but who is Saul Goodman to Kim Wexler?"


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Ray FlookAbout Ray Flook

Serving as Television Editor since 2018, Ray began five years earlier as a contributing writer/photographer before being brought onto the core BC team in 2017.
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