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Daredevil's Deborah Ann Woll Says Karen Sympathizes With The Punisher

One of best parts of the second season of Daredevil was the unexpected dynamic between Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll) and Frank Castle, AKA The Punisher (Jon Bernthal). The two characters played off of each other so well and they seemed to really care about each by the end. The producer of the Punisher solo series seemed to realize what they had was special and was quick to bring Woll back. During an interview with Screen Rant, Woll talked about the dynamic, why she thinks it works so well, and how Karen sympathizes with Frank more than Matt Murdock (Daredevil):

Daredevil's Deborah Ann Woll Says Karen Sympathizes With The Punisher

"I think if anything, it's easier for Karen to sympathize with Frank than it is with Matt in some ways, because Karen in a lot of ways is more like Frank. You know, she killed the guy who kidnapped her and threatened all the people that she loved and didn't really think twice about it – and then she covered it up, and didn't tell anyone about it."

While Karen seems to have a much harder time sleeping at night than Frank does she is ruthless when she needs to be. As far as we know she hadn't told anyone about what she did back in season one. That admission, and how she's hiding bits of her past, makes her more honest with Frank than she is with Matt, according to Woll.

"I mean, Karen's a vigilante more akin to Frank in many ways than to Matt, who has his religiousness and his righteousness that is sort of pulling him in many directions. I think in some ways, Karen can't be really honest about who she is with Matt in a way that she can be with Frank."

Daredevil's Deborah Ann Woll Says Karen Sympathizes With The PunisherWoll seems to know that she isn't jumping the Daredevil train to switch series anymore, Karen is an extremely important part of Matt's life, and we'll be seeing some of the fallout from the secret identity reveal in The Defenders. Woll, however, believes the real turnaround for that story won't come until season three. When it comes to Frank though Woll believes Frank and Karen already see eye to eye in a way Matt and Karen do not.

"Now, clearly, I think the relationship growth for Karen and Matt will be how can they really open up and show their true self to each other? And in a way, I think she's already there with Frank."

Daredevil's Deborah Ann Woll Says Karen Sympathizes With The PunisherOne of the best parts of this dynamic with Frank is that comic fans don't have a head start on the story. These are two characters that haven't been developed together in this way before.

"I love, love, love working with Jon [Bernthal]. I think what we found with Frank and Karen is really unique, obviously has never been done in the comics, so it really belongs to us in the Netflix world."

Woll returns in The Defenders, which will stream to Netflix August 18th, and The Punisher later this year.


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Kaitlyn is the Editor-in-Chief at Bleeding Cool. She loves movies, television, and comics. She's a member of the UFCA and the GALECA. Feminist. Writer. Nerd. Follow her on twitter @katiesmovies and @safaiagem on instagram. She's also a co-host at The Nerd Dome Podcast. Listen to it at http://www.nerddomepodcast.com
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