There's a rumor going around that Hamilton star Lin-Manuel Miranda wants to play Carnage in a Marvel movie. Preferably, he would like to play him in an adaptation of Maximum Carnage, the 1990s super-mega-crossover event that saw Carnage lead a team of super-villains including Shriek, Doppelganger, Demogoblin, and Carrion in a fourteen-issue battle against a team of superheroes and Venom which included Spider-Man, Captain America, Black Cat, Nightwatch, Cloak and Dagger, Iron Fist, Deathlok, Morbius, and Firestar. The mere thought of a Maximum Carnage movie is making our nostalgia-sense tingle, and we like it.
But before we get too excited, it's worth noting that the rumor, which is being reported at ComicBook.com, Heroic Hollywood, Comic Book Movie, Cinema Blend, SlashFilm, and even Italian Hollywood gossip site Cinematographe, where Italy's (superior) version of Rich Johnston, Maria Zuozo, reports:
Durante una puntata di Meet The Movie Press, Simon Thompson ha rivelato che l'attore di Broadway, Lin-Manuel Miranda (Hamilton), a quanto pare ha voglia di voler interpretare il malvagio Carnage, uno dei più grandi cattivi di Spider-Man.
Secondo il padrone di casa, Manuel Miranda è un grande fan del personaggio e addirittura va a specificare che tipo di storia vorrebbe creare per il suo personaggio e l'intreccio con l'Uomo Ragno.
What that, and all the other articles I could have easily quoted in English, is saying is that entertainment journalist Simon Thompson was doing a podcast called "Meet the Movie Press," and he talked about an interview he did with Lin-Manuel Miranda, and this what Thomson says that Miranda said (from the transcribed quote that everyone is using):
"He (Miranda) is a big fan of Marvel. There is one particular character that he would actually like to play, that he has already specified. It's Carnage. He said if Disney and Marvel were looking at doing a Maximum Carnage movie or bringing Carnage in [the Marvel Cinematic Universe] as a character, he wants to be Carnage. Genuinely as a fan, he would love to play Carnage. That is a goal of his."
So, you know, this is really third-hand information that's being reported, because one of those sites found it first, reported on it, and then all the other ones copied it, as that is how the beast known as the 24 hour entertainment news cycle must be fed, and it is always hungry. The point is, it's totally possible, maybe even likely Lin-Manuel Miranda actually said those things, but the way the rumor is being spread around makes it sound sketchier than a claim that Marvel's Inhumans TV show doesn't replace the
never-gonna-happen planned feature film.
Take it with a grain of salt, is the point.
Carnage, Venom, and probably most of those characters must part of the Spider-Man family of movie rights, which is technically owned by Sony, but they've been working with Marvel on Spider-Man, so this could actually happen. Of course, as pointed out on the podcast, which you can listen to for more context, Miranda is just mentioning that he'd be interested in this, which doesn't mean any project is in development.
But assuming it's all true, it does offer us the opportunity to take a little trip down memory lane…
Back in July, Bleeding Cool arch-enemy Dan Slott was taking a beating on his dearly departed Twitter account for an issue of Silver Surfer that featured the Surfer going to see Hamilton, but for spurious reasons Dan Slott blamed on "lawyers," he and Mike Allred needed to turn the cast, including Miranda, into white guys. Inexplicably, Bleeding Cool apparently missed the opportunity to rake ol' Dan Slott over the coals for this one, but luckily, an handsome young intrepid reporter from TheOuthousers.com did, and yes, he took screenshots.
It's a day ending in "Y," which means Marvel Comics has done something wrong and refuses to take blame for it again. This time, it's a cameo appearance by the racially diverse cast of the hit Broadway musical Hamilton being whitewashed in the pages of Silver Surfer by Dan Slott and Mike Allred. Comicosity Senior Editor Matt Santori-Griffith pointed out the issue on Twitter:
The page in question:
That dashing reporter continued:
As we all know, Dan Slott's work cannot be criticized on Twitter without Dan Slott showing up to defend himself even when he's not directly mentioned, and no senior staff members at Marvel can ever admit to being wrong, so, naturally, Slott immediately embarked on a Twitter campaign to absolve himself and Marvel of all blame in the incident. The scapegoat this time: mysterious Marvel lawyers who, while allowing all sorts of cameos in other books, for some reason took big issue with a single panel referencing the popular show.
Dan Slott, who we'll take this opportunity to remind you is a professional in the employ of the largest comic book publisher in America, Marvel, itself the subsidiary of one of the biggest entertainment conglomerates in the world, Disney, writing Spider-Man, one of the most globally recognized intellectual properties in the universe, took to Twitter to argue with anyone who disagreed with him, starting with Bleeding Cool contributor Joe Glass:
With Lin-Manuel Miranda being such a big fan of Marvel, wouldn't it have been easier to just clear the cameo, which Miranda would probably have been thrilled by, with him, rather than to waste valuable hours he could have been writing comics to make nonsensical arguments with a childlike understanding of legal issues on Twitter. Oh, Dan Slott on Twitter. Truly, we will miss you.
Personally, if we were Lin-Manuel Miranda, after that fiasco, we might consider starring in a movie for DC. But hopefully, that's not the case, because Lin-Manuel Miranda's Maximum Carnage: The Musical may be the greatest idea for a comic book movie we've ever heard.